The charter of the Pyramid states no MVP can drop below Level 3 unless it's for a good reason. That's at least 70+ years of music I'm combing through and constantly digging up gems. Billy Cunningham, 55. They influenced pretty much all 90's hard rock and metal. As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. -the Who, the Dave Clark Five being a close second despite their clean polished sound, they were loud and energetic. . They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. Eurthymics Sorry but the Sex Pistols are way overrated. Both have had three great years. The most "most mean" is on how the artist's relation to people. "Got A Job" The Marcels What about Public Enemy?). Depeche Mode-Level 2 Has any modern superstar ever had more career-related what ifs? Nobody above him had a shorter period of being in that stratosphere. The J.B.'s Cheap Trick T. Rex (Level 2) Bob Dylan -Most snubbed? 110. 11. Posted by Steve Z on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 17:17pm, Add Deep Purple, Miles Davis, KISS, and Nina Simone to the acts that need serious promotion. Dominique Wilkins, 63. And oh, yeah, let's get the Moody Blues IN before we decide which tier they should be on. Up 2-0 in the Western Finals and riding a 20-game winning streak, the seemingly invincible Spurs are demolished by Kevin Durant and a Thunder team that peaked at the perfect time. After all, I am a huge "progressive rock" supporter, n'est-ce pas? 32. Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 02/9/2016 @ 17:04pm, Posted by Classic Rock on Friday, 04/22/2016 @ 20:34pm. They should be upgraded too. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. 6)Patti Smith-Why is she in the hall again? Pearl Jam AC/DC Great survey, John! Green Day Journey - 1 Quietest: Musically, James Taylor. Bill breaks it down with his former ESPN colleague J.A. I have seen that. I understand their attempts, and respect it to some degree. Tupac Shakur: 10/10 DEFINITELY !! Prince: 10/10 And how the hell could OKC ever trade James Harden after Game 5? Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 03:26am. For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. But he's not better than Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan. ZZ Top: 7/10 (including Chicago) 77. James Brown (and the Famous Flames) I'd bump them up to Level 2 simply because of how they advanced a genre that was pretty much on the fringes before they came along. Oops. LEVEL 3 ?? He could've gone anywhere, but to Golden State and nobody would've held a grudge outside of those weirdos in Oklahoma. 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Where's number 5? Is the top rung ever going to be added to? You were being facetious, were you not? Solomon Burke: 7/10 Yes, and the rest of the list is just like you said. Something went wrong. These are the misses from the initial Pyramid that I would've liked rectified: Grant Hill (replacing Connie Hawkins - Hawkins should be in the Comets section and Hill should've been in the Pyramid), Alonzo Mourning (replacing Sabonis - same deal with the Hawkins/Hill swap), Tim Hardaway (for Kevin Johnson - I saw both, Hardaway was a better player), Ben Wallace or Dikembe Mutombo (for Horry - I get where he was going with including Big Shot Bob, but one of the other two guys deserved that spot), My toughest omissions from this Pyramid: Amar'e, Billups, Blake, Paul George, Rose. The Byrds: 10/10 Michael Jackson: 10/10 Kingdom of Heaven 27 Johnny Cash Was Kazaam better than Steel? That's who he is. Posted by Ry Guy on Tuesday, 10/13/2015 @ 18:12pm. Bob Marley: 10/10 Connie Hawkins, 99. or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. 2)The Ramones-They need to be demoted. The inductees on Level 1 on the other hand, are often the reason the Rock Hall makes so many people crazy. Except perhaps Bon Jovi, which I would put in the sub-basement if it were within my power to do so. Janet Jackson: 9/10 Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 11:44:59 pm . I also feel EXACTLY the same about John Lennon. 133. And from 2017: Where do you see the rankings for 2015 Class? Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. The Jimi Hendrix Experience If Liny Wray was inducted, he would be on four. . The Moody Blues, when inducted, should sit on the 5th tier. 58. I would like to see it. No again. "Lower-tier Bob Dylan"? not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six When I complete the list, I'll link it here so you can read my reasons. You are pleased to answer anytime you want. Whitney Houston: 9/10 Since this hasn't been updated since 2019, where do you think the 2020 and 2021 inductees rank in the Rock Hall pyramid? Most loudest inductee (outside the Metal genre)? "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. Tier 5 looks pretty solid. 151. Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15787 times) chelo. David Bowie, Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, Beastie Boys, Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Black Sabbath and The Stooges Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? Paul Simon Donna Summer (middle 3rd) It's just how the hall seems to operate now. The Jackson 5: 9/10 The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 2004 Al Green I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. Sex Pistols Lavern Baker: 6/10 102. 204. On David Bowie, I agree with you on his importance in rock and roll but, I just hate it when people glorify him as the father of glam rock when T. Rex and The New York Dolls started the movement. Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: Del Shannon: 5/10 183. Jimmy Reed: 8/10 I'd at least move up Aretha, the Boss, and Bowie, Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 14:50pm. Regarding your throughts on the 2014 Nominees, I would say that the only group that I woundn't celebrate getting into the Hall would be NWA. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 03:39am. The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. Randy Newman Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/14/2018 @ 00:18am. Powered by SMF | It's fine, but it's more of a BS pod than a true sequel (I'm of the belief that Simmons sort of lost his passion when ESPN fired him for criticizing Goodell). Metallica Robert Horry, 97. He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. The Yardbirds Isaac Hayes Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 218. 115. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years . The Police: 9/10 Talking Heads Deep Purple (Level 2) 209. I know Bill has him higher, but he doesn't have the body of work just yet. History of The World Part 1 Hal Greer, 54. They are a 2 at best. 87. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. This need to be updated. Level 5 Rush Joan Baez: 6/10 Elton John: 10/10 Public Enemy (Level 4) Traffic Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: 2Pac - 2 I'm also with you on the Byrds being where they are. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? Blondie: 8/10 The Four Tops 1998 NWA - 3 (=Public Enemy) **************** THE MIRACLES **************** 29. Give Orange. Percy Sledge: 2/10 15. Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? "Much Better Off" J Dilla. Clearly one of the 10 best players in the league in the latter half of this decade, but got saddled with an incompetent front office. Madonna (Level 4) Bon Jovi: 4/10 of all time, Simmons opensand then closes, once and for allevery major pro basketball debate. The Beatles should be level 0, abd Poison moves up to level 5. You hate the way he plays. Miles Davis: 9/10 Having said that, I wouldn't consider the incorporation of social issues into lyrics a sign of music evolving. 1990 Hall and Oates And that's the Simmons Pyramid, right? Except on Neil Young, of course. Rod Stewart One of those people helped me learn a little bit about iluminati I suffered before I became a millionaire via the help of iluminati.I knew here in US promised to help me give email which I emailed told them I want become a member and be protected.They accept my application and I was initiated after my initiation. It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. I've heard stories about Freddie's generosity, John Deacon was always a quiet guy who just got up there and played (doesn't do interviews anymore), while May and Taylor always come across well in interviews. Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. Was this the best-played and most-loaded series of the decade? Nope! 162. 1992 Elmore James Black Sabbath and Queen again. Tom Chambers, 109. 225. Dennis Rodman. The Allman Brothers Band: 9/10 Bo Diddley - This is going off the paperback version which includes everything up to the '09-'10 season. The pyramid has been updated with the latest inductees. I would also move a few artists around like replacing Madonna with some other female singer like Liz Phair or Norah Jones, moving Elton John down a rank and putting Billy Joel there, moving Sam Cooke up a bit as well as Big Joe Turner and Fats Domino. Laura Nyro: 4/10 Artis Gilmore, 87. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify Black Sabbath "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, and She & Him among many others. Level Three: Ramses (Yul Brynner) Posted by Follower on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 20:33pm. Bob Cousy, 23. Prince: 10/10 "Influence" is not really a matter of opinion. Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 07/28/2016 @ 20:05pm, The Beatles 5 Marvin Gaye: 10/10 Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 Sam Jones, 38. ISBN: 978-0345511768 and 034551176X. Most weridest inductee: Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Sly Stone, Prince, and Michael Jackson. 45. But Neil aside, I like your other changes. Jeff Beck: 7/10 1996 Santana, unless you're arguing against the Mexican roots. One of the BIGGEST factors in determining that elusive factor called "Influence", is : "How many artists have covered your songs". If youre trying to make a case for him being dumb, then KD over those guys is not the way to do it. John Lee Hooker U2: 10/10 ZZ Top The Notorious B.I.G. -the Non-Performers? "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson Granted, I still enjoy most of the artists I've advocated during my heyday on FRL, but I simply have no time for music that overemphasizes lyrics at the expense of musicianship and technical ability. Public Enemy, then Beastie Boys, then Run-DMC, then Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5 (Cant wait to see NWA and LL Cool J get in) Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. 1987 T-Bone Walker Three thousand years ago on a battlefield in ancient Palestine, a shepherd boy felled a mighty warrior with nothing more than a stone and a sling, and Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 14:23pm, 2022 inductees: For mine, check out my top 75. 1997 Bill Monroe Run - DMC: 10/10 -You can place as many artists as you want at each level, however each level must have equal to more of the amount of artists than the level before it (For example: Level 1 can have 1 artist, Level 2 can have 3 artists, Level 3 can then have 3 artists also, but Level 4 can't have 2 or less, but it can have 3 or more. Skip to secondary content. 49. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. 90. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 . Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. But every 15 that are added should mean one more to Level 5, two more to 4, and so on. 123. -Most mean? I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 14:25pm. The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." This was a hard one to boil down to just one pick, but I decided on The Eagles as the unworthiest act in the hall. Nine Inch Nails 83. But as long as they are moved up to the 4th tier, I will not be very disappointed. Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. Jackson Browne Fleetwood Mac Press J to jump to the feed. Pat Benatar (Level 1) Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) 13. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? The Who, Metallica, Led Zeppelin would all rank up there. Is there any way we can realign the pyramid with the artist rankings we did over the course of last year? "The Tears of a Clown" La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins. 4. @ Follower Stevie Nicks: 3/10 "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson Meanest: Ike Turner! The Staple Singers Bruce Springsteen: 10/10 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009.. IMO obviously. That's the backbone of my opinion and I'm out of cares about your opinion about my opinion, pal. 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