But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. Solar will previal . They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. }); This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? Group. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. TWICE - jihyo: wore a native american costume + introduced herself as ''indian jihyo . . } I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), hitType: 'event', Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). pg.acq.push(function() { okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. Probation Faker. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. ; _____; aaaa. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. #1,972. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Goodbye! ), but I think if you look at all other successful idol groups too, there is always something similar with controversies and hate there as well. actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. },false) document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ But that explanation was also not bought by many. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. JavaScript is disabled. hitType: 'event', }); The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. } (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). That obviously didnt work too well. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. hitType: 'event', Yes, I should have checked the links. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. #AskHwasa. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. ourbridgeisforever:. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. ga('ads.send', { For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. ga('ads.send', { also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Posts: 337. Feels bad yo. }); So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. Red Velvet too. let gads_event; You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. eventAction: 'render' We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. i am so so tired. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? 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