The trigger reset does suck but its still a great gun. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. Bottom line: you can do much better. Must be the best gun ever. Maybe something like this? Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. And I especially enjoy its clever name. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Ultra smooth shooters. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. Its tight, even well after break-in. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. He didnt even require them to be positive. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. I chose. LMFAO!!!! Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. I own a hp380. I just dont see the silent u in that. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. Does this guy have any gun expertise? Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. I used to have one. How is this journalisim? I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. I recommend them to people all the time, but I do caution that, as is to be expected with a DAO, the trigger is long. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. Its that bad. Bought it brand new. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Sleek design, totally snag proof. Buy Your Tickets Today! Remarkable build quality. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Great sights, ability to change out to night sights and on and on. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. Look at the back of the slide. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. The Pico is a great gun. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. How do they perform? You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? WebBest 9mm Concealed Carry (CCW) Pistol - SIG Sauer P365. No aluminum. They never protected their early designs/. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. I really think you never did anything with the Pico other than Picking one up and then getting of the internet and posting without any knowledge of how to use the firearm. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. check the ammo?? Get real. So the recoil is stout. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. And than some. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. Great gun otherwise. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. Funny. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Kahr CW 380. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Mild. It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. The Pico is built like a tank. He says it is a blunder. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. . Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . You got to be a rookie. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Its pretty clear why. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Bodyguard were well rated. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. Im glad it ended well, but if he hadnt scored a first round hit he would have been screwed for real. All you did is look at numerical reviews on the internet. The gun design has never worked well . Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. capacity. Just keep shooting your pistol. (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. How is it possibly at the top of the list? For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. But still, Im sure there are worse ones. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. Uh no. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. Did you give them Cyrillic numbers to rate with? I love my CPX-1. The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. No issues to complain about. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. 8===D~. I really wanted to like the gun. Snicker. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. It would likely be more meaningful. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. None. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). As in best gun LOL. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. 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