Essentially both types of sling present 3 loops, to form a better control on the stance with the firearm to hold and return to a sighting zero (natural point of aim) - I have personally experienced this in CMP competitions, where sling use during rapid fire is essential. Another dimension is whether to use (or if it is fitted) to include the front trigger guard triangular sling swivel (included in the factory build from Nov 1944 onwards and added by armourers as found after). For example, No. by gruff27 22 Mar 2012, 20:09, Post Many minor variations in parts are present across the different manufacturers and for the different years that the rifles were produced. Apr 25, 2010 #2 Threeband The M1 Does My Talking AA was webbing. According to Skennerton, these scabbards were most likely made in North America, either the USA or Canada. The "S" was added to indicate the need for this re-zeroing as a subsequent step. While the Winchester made P14s were recognized as designated man / sniper rifles and developed the remainder, included the 1907 leather slings were relegated to storage and second tier supplies / arms / materials. VNS mark represents "Viners Ltd. Sheffield, England" a subcontractor of Enfield parts. For official references, usually the finished and issued rifle was tracked by its rack number and of course these records have long since been destroyed or lost forever. These war time sling swivels were made by Hollands and are typically browned steel. 1943 went up to 'BL'. 4Mk. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has risen $13.78 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $631.57 . In the expert write ups, there is reference to the H&H contract use of an "S" on the would-be "single round cut off" mounting ear section of the right receiver wall. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for British Lee Enfield No. 4 bayonet. However, this has not been substantiated. APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. We set ourselves apart by supplying unique parts at a good value and standing by our products by offering outstanding customer service. examples with "E", "F" and "S" marks in a bright blued finish (often with a triangle that is a little too tight for the leather 1907 sling). Most of these seem to have been released / imported in the 1980s. Snipers in the field (Europe) were prove to take a Bren length webbing sling and leave the 1907 Leather behind. The No. 4 rifles were imported to the USA from Turkey in the mid-2000s. Wartime guns all had letter prefixes, but each. 4Mk. This "last-ditch" SMLE was manufactured in 1943, and it has all the signs of a wartime firearm made in the throws of desperation. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post A small number of aluminum mouthpieces are known, along with a single brass mouthpiece example (discussed below). The new model became the Magazine, Lee Enfield Mk1 or MLE Mk1 in 1895. Fazakerley also continued to produce the rifle for foreign contracts after the war. 1 scabbards. Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. These are now hard to find in any condition, but this example is near pristine. Hollands would mark all rifles that they converted, not spare parts. This is not to say that Enfield serial numbers provide no information or that they are not an interesting subject. The entrenching tool was made by William Hunt & Sons, The Brades Ltd., Brades Steel Works, Oldbury, near Birmingham. The little safety spring has a Long Branch stamp,the front sight protector was made by the Singer Sewing Machine Co.,the magazine follower was made by Savage. From 1943 onwards, Singer bayonets bore their dispersal code, N67. I. The wood shop feeding Longbranch in Canada did yield some orignal NOS Canadian Destined cheek pieces in the last decade. broad arrow proofmark 1943" over "CAT. So a genuine Savage rear sight converted to T format by H&H is possible on an early 1941 converted and war time used rifle and on a late 1945 scopeless rifles and in between when added to BSA rifles that had the L flip sight from the factory - Savage provided a lot of micrometer sights for this purpose. Due to similarities with Indian Government acceptance marks, this was once thought to possibly indicate Indian service. 0000000756 00000 n A general guide for military surplus rifles, pistols, and ammunition. Prince-Smith & Stells in Keighly, Yorkshire, produced 1,057,515 No. 4Mk. 4 Mk. Howard & Bullough marked their bayonets three different ways: Lewisham Engineering, at 9 & 11 Malyons Road, Ladywell, London, was the smallest maker of the No. (21mm.) I was beautifully made, with its distinctive cruciform blade. The metal components of the early examples were oil blackened, making a durable dull black finish. The Indians did us no favors scrubbing & remarking as they did. 4 Mk. They did not add the serial number of the rifle to the second butt stock edge, nor the S51 mark to the wrist - this Hollands work is not recognized as required for continued service in those parts. In correspondence, Anthony Carter indicated that Brades was the maker of many of the entrenching tools. Lee-Enfield rifle 303 No.4 Mark 1. Socket: "No. III (substitute) scabbard with parallel sides and oval frog stud. A redesign of the Lee-Metford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the Lee-Enfield superseded the earlier . Along with parts replacement and service programs. long by 0.8125in. 0000001927 00000 n It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an "X" mark on the upper left flat on top of the left fore end that holds the receiver wall. Hollands also wrote the serial number of the rifle in pencil on the inside of the barrel channel on wooden fore end sections - just the serial number and not the letters have been observed. No idea what it means on a No.4. As the war drew to a close the field feedback resulted in a prototype webbing target style sling being trialed (made by MECo). This lowered costs and allowed manufacture by subcontractors. 4 Mk. Other makers welded the spike to the socket. A drain hole in the finial, allows water to drain. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). he! (2) Canadian No. The last picture illustrates an unusual mark, occasionally found on No. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Baird No. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($24.62) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $603.36 . wide at the extremes. Home / Firearm Parts and Accessories / Rifle Parts / Lee Enfield #4 MK1. The following illustrates the four bayonet and scabbard types that were mass produced; and some unusual variants that I have acquired. Also, the Tape Hunt makes a return. The new rifle was well regarded by the troops receiving them. These come for the Lee-Enfield No.4 MK1. II bayonets from 19421944. (pictured at left) It was thought that these may have been used by Australian units serving alongside the British Army, however, Australian issue of these bayonets has not been confirmed. So it figures that the right S51 is almost always from Hollands and there are less of them due to service attrition than there are real No4Ts that can evidence them. The final result in March 1944 became the No. The No. As interest in replacing the No. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. Because of its great simplicity, the government was able to let contracts to firms not previously associated with arms production. xref This Mossberg 26B bolt-action rifle in .22 caliber belonged to my dad, Robert Elmo Babington. Nearly 5 million spike bayonets were reported produced. Method III 4 MK 1 and retained its original chambering in .303 British. Here is a Savage T format sight - with a 'squared S" on all 4 major parts as above: Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information Buy Now Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. Commercially, in the United States, these rifles have not been widely available for some time, although nice unsporterized examples can still be found. The prefixes were assigned as follows: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, L, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T ,U, V, W, Y ,Y, Z, AA, AB, AC. 4 bayonets. #6. Stock No: 7B/546 Read my article on Bayonets for the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield Rifles. So they languished deep in the Weedon bunkers. 5 Mk I (for example, Savage or 2. Mills Webbing Prototype (Reproduction) Sling. Following the sale of Remington Outdoor Company's assets in September 2020, Vista Outdoor purchased Remington Ammunition. Truth be known about Enfield serial numbers is simply, the serial number was used more for production counting than any other reason. Markings: The left side of the stock collar is marked "14C2827 / S /1942" and with a flaming bomb proof. I* (T) were the standard WWII sniper rifles for the British and for the Commonwealth, except for Australia. There are fewer finer rifles that are a pleasure to own, enjoy and shoot than the peacetime made Lee Enfield No4 Mk2. Carries the electropenciled New Zealand property marking and serial number. Savage was the only other maker to follow Singer's pattern of marking the spring plunger. The Government assigned each manufacturer a Dispersal Code to use in lieu of their trademark. These later T's often went into stock as "Scopeless" - a rifle in a transit chest as a spare part - awaiting a need and the addition of a scope and bracket - plus all the other CES. The item on the left has been rebuilt, but features other components marked "SM" for consistency. What makes this particular Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.2 an 'obscure' object of desire: it's in abso-fricking-lutely 100% condition. I will have to check through Skennerton tonight. I like using the triangular sling swivel to deliberately tighten the sling around my hand to grip the fore-end when using a shooting glove, Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information, Genuine Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Parts, Features, Marks and Accessories, Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. Date Packed: 7/8/57 Call us toll free: +1 888-744-0066. Rear Sights are flip-up adjustable aperature micrometer sights, not vertical leaf. Hollands also stamped the rifle serial number into the hidden edge of the top of the butt that fits into the wrist socket and at the underside tip of the lower fore wood - along the barrel bore axis (other factory serials are seen here wrapped around the fore wood - around the barrel axis). Lee Enfield No. Markings on Lee Enfield rifles No4 serial numbers too. over S376, inside a rectangle. " gh" over "1 9 h". This updated and expanded edition also has a ready model identification chapter and colour plates. However, the Rijkswacht (Gendarmerie) used the No. The very early contracts at Holland and Holland for T conversion included selected rifles from Savage, Longbranch, Maltby and BSA (a single Fazakerley example has been documented @ 2020) - this was too much variation for the conversion process to be efficient and by early 1942 only BSA rifles were to be converted. 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. I scabbard in web belt frogs made for use with the Pattern 1907 bayonet. The Belgian Army transitioned to the FN Model 1949 rifle beginning in 1951. The Enfield No4 MK1 was one of the most prominent battle rifles ever produced. II* bayonets have been observed with an arrow over "D" marking on the front of the socket. 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